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#31: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:18 pm
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Test results (in IE):

#32: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:47 am
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Sad

a few days after I thought I had it working I noticed that with different browsers the png image seems to be slightly lighter or darker than the repeating background image. I have tried to make the logo image both lighter and darker but when it looks good in one it messes up the other. I can't seem to get it to look right with all browsers... so that I can use the one png image - SOOoo I'm back to square one. Embarassed

The only real good solution (well the only one that doesn't involve Microsoft actually FIXING their broken browser) is to somehow get transparent png-24 images to work in a similar fashion to my intro page...

You can see an example of how it works by clicking my www link below - though this is not the site I need this logo working for, you can see what it is I am trying to do. The "Dragons of the Old Order and The Young Dragons" is actually a png-24 transparent image that uses a special method to work in IE.

Is there anyone out there that wouldn't mind taking a crack at it? so far I have tried all the solutions posted in this thread - none have succeeded.

To recap the question is:

How do I get transparent logo png-24 image that shows up at the top of my website (and preferably all other areas a png image could show up on my website) to work properly with both IE6 (I haven't been able to get my hands on IE7 beta) AND Firefox?

My problem is that my members (on y family website) are almost split 50/50 between firefox and IE - IE having a slight majority. I would really like it to look nice for everyone, not just half.

#33: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: xfsunoles, Location: Melbourne, Florida

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:58 am
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Shade2074 wrote:

Believe me, don't get IE 7. I Don't like it very much. They Copy it from Firefox UI. IE 7 have Different Rule about Alpha PNG.

#34: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:42 am
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hehe So I guess MS actually FIXING their browser is totally out of the question...

That still leaves me with my original problem. Sad

#35: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Mystic, Location: Spokane, WA USA

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:00 am
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Just use .GIF's to avoid the issue. At least all the browsers support them.

#36: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:21 am
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Mystic wrote:

Just use .GIF's to avoid the issue. At least all the browsers support them.

While that IS a solution to me it just isn't really a very good solution - though it would work it just doesn't look nearly as nice. png-8 doesn't look as nice either. with gifs and png-8 I don't get to use as many colors I would like, the images look grainy and there just isn't enough levels of transparency to support the kind of image I'm aiming for.

If it can't be done it can't be done - that I could understand and I will just continue to use gifs and png-8s as you have suggested, but I just wanted to be sure that it really 'can not' be done is all. It couldn't hurt to put the question out there - I mean it seems the solution wasout there - at least at one point, I was kind of hoping that someone out there would know if the solution is still out there or if sp2 broke any chance of using png-24's the way I would like to with CPG-Dragonfly.

#37: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Mystic, Location: Spokane, WA USA

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:06 am
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Hopefully someday all will work as it should. We can hope anyway. Wink

#38: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:34 am
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Anyone find a way to get this to work by any chance?

#39: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: djdevon3,

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:17 am
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awesome testing shade. unfortunately i really don't think there is going to be a solution with png transparency with the quality you desire until microsoft fixes it. ie has become a larger and larger dissapointment with every passing day. all it would take is to fix the issues with ie and i might actually try it out again.

#40: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Phoenix, Location: Netizen

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:59 am
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I've updated kegobeer's original post with a new link that does have the missing info on making png work in IE, but it still needs quite a bit of work in your theme.

dragonflycms.org/Forum...t=971.html

#41: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Shade2074,

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:49 pm
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Thank you for the link Phoenix, it sounds like it's not a solution in on to itself but at least it's a new lead to try! I have to go to the hospital (for daughter) for a few days - but I'm going to see if I can figure out anything new while I have some time. =)

djdevon3 the more I test the more I'm inclined to agree with you! I'm starting to think it would actually be EASIER to get people to switch over to Firefox than it would be to get M$ to fix their
#@!&*$ browser! Laughing

There are times when being different is a great idea - I wish Microsoft would get a clue and realize this is NOT one of them!

Thank you again for the links - if through some miracle I'm able to get SOMETHING to work - I'll definitely post back here and let people know.

#42: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: djdevon3,

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:25 pm
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gee a 100+ line script just to get pngs to show. i was hoping for something a little less complex. and you say it has to be included in every theme phoenix? forget it. i'll use gifs. how long until everyone switches to firefox? any estimates?

the next time i go over to the business i'm a tech at i'm going to switch all 20 computers. no one should be running ie right now in my opinion. if they dont care to fix errors then i'm not going to care to run it. thank god i have a choice.

#43: Re: Transparent .png file in IE with Dragonfly? Author: Phoenix, Location: Netizen

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:48 pm
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Firefox looks like it's reached its natural level, under 10% of the market.

Learn to live with it - IE is here to stay for the majority of viewers, and they determine your choices as a webmaster Wink

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