The final switch from Windows to Linux
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#1: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:42 pm
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Ok ok, there are loads of websites that laugh about Windows and make fun of it. I laughed as well but i couldn't do without due to many software i use which is on Linux not even close in features.

However, in my quest to convert to linux (for 8 years already) i finally found some good software that suites my development needs.
Due to that i can finally fully work in Linux to develop Dragonfly, MOO and many other stuff.

What i needed:

A. a cvs front-end for easy click, edit and point
B. an easy to handle syntax highlighter with utf8 support

What i found:

A. LinCVS (the free version)
B. Bluefish

Anf they finally are mature enough to setup a nice workspace Smile

#2: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: layingback PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:10 pm
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Good on you! What distribution did you go with?

Thanks for the links, intend to do same on my next box - when funds permit Wink

#3: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:07 pm
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I've started with many distro's like Debian, SuSe, Redhat, Mandrake, Gentoo, Slackware, Knoppix, Fedora and Ubuntu.
But for a few years i'm a happy CentOS user currently running 4.4.

Bluefish has a option to do tab spacing. One thing is missing though and that is bracket matching.
It's on their feature requests list though.
bfwiki.tellefsen.net/i...reRequests

#4: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:20 am
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Now that i'm actively developing on Linux i was shocked to only see all those ugly fonts without any crispy font like in Windows.

A simple google search for "centos install fonts" hit the jack pot.
www.osresources.com/3_13_en.html

Now it's all clear in front of my eyes as well Smile

#5: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: xfsunolesLocation: Melbourne, Florida PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:08 am
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Whats happen firefox logo on that browser title bars?

#6: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:22 pm
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inactive window

#7: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:36 pm
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Hmm i just found out about AIXGL thru the following video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk

But my CentOS 4 doesn't support it Crying or Very sad
So more fun with desk3d.sourceforge.net/ Smile

#8: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WideLocation: Playa Del Rey, CA PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:15 am
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Welcome to the nix side Smile
Been here so long I have big issues while on a MS box

Unfortunately I need to use one for working on Catia

CenOs os a very nice stable system, I have one server with that since version 7

Enjoy Mr. Green

#9: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: xfsunolesLocation: Melbourne, Florida PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:17 am
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Multi-Touch screen? *nix is pretty cool if your running away from Windows.

#10: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:00 pm
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@Wide

I'm using CentOS for a few years now and it's definatly stable.
I do use the centosplus repo though for PHP5.

#11: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:04 pm
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I need to convert, too. Sad But I am scare. Wink I am not well verse in Linux. Been about 8 years too. Sad

Congrat DJ Maze. Very Happy You took the final steps. Very Happy

#12: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: xfsunolesLocation: Melbourne, Florida PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:04 pm
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WebSiteGuru wrote:
I need to convert, too. Sad But I am scare. Wink I am not well verse in Linux. Been about 8 years too. Sad

Congrat DJ Maze. Very Happy You took the final steps. Very Happy

I'm waiting to switching to a Mac OS X. all I need how to afford it. Mr. Green

How you scaring of Linux? it looks easy if your know how to do it.

#13: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:49 pm
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xfsunoles wrote:
WebSiteGuru wrote:
I need to convert, too. Sad But I am scare. Wink I am not well verse in Linux. Been about 8 years too. Sad

Congrat DJ Maze. Very Happy You took the final steps. Very Happy

I'm waiting to switching to a Mac OS X. all I need how to afford it. Mr. Green

How you scaring of Linux? it looks easy if your know how to do it.

My problem is I dont know how to do it. That is why I am scared. I tried it before. Installing Linux and I cound not figured out how to get it on the network. So, I put it back to Windows.

I think I might do the same thing and wait until I have enoguh money to get a Mac OS X. If not I'll try to load Linux again on one of my old box that is still sitting in my closet.

#14: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:34 pm
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I'm using linux for years already and everything always worked.
These days it's easier thanks to live cd's which i didn't have in the past.

Those days i was forced to download 2-3 cd iso's using an ISDN dual dial-up.

If you want to go safe you should try CentOS, SuSe or Debian.
For home comfort try Ubuntu.

Ubuntu never worked for me though, it hates all my videocards.

#15: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:40 pm
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I got Ubuntu, it's kind of nice. But I can only run it off the CD. I want to load it to the box so I dont have my CD ROM tied up.

I might just try CentOS thou. How easy is it to load it?

#16: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:56 pm
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It was very easy for me.
Downloaded the dvd iso.
Booted it up using redhat's amazing graphical installer.
Installed nicely.

Google'd a few days over the couple of years regarding NTFS, FreeType, Samba and nVidia support.
And the last days regarding GUI's for C++ and PHP development, CVS GUI's and some other stuff.

The biggest pain was my audio cards which are special using the superior, real 24bit, VIA chipset (SoundBlaster sucks here) with no-noise ratio's above 105db.

My Marian Marc soundcard still doesn't work though, but 3 out of my 4 installed soundcards is enough Smile

#17: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: sultan PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:08 pm
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DJ Maze wrote:

But my CentOS 4 doesn't support it Crying or Very sad
Use Fedora Core 6 on one box and CentOS 5 (x64) on another. Enjoy and welcome to the dark side.

#18: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:47 am
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or Ubuntu, Knoppix, SuSe, Sabayon or Gentoo Razz

Currently i don't need it Ctrl+Alt+Arrow is still faster Smile

#19: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:27 pm
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I myself just been converted.. Project Linux, codename Ubuntu. Very Happy

I finally got tired of Windows VIRUS, SPYWARE, etc... The last one did me in. Sad Still trying to find all needed programs that I use.

BYE BYE Windows, HELLO LINUX! Laughing

#20: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: greenday2kLocation: CO PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:22 am
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I've just installed Kubuntu and runs smooth, now i need some programs. Looks great with beryl effects.

#21: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: bigern75 PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:04 pm
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I made the switch to, finally, on my laptop. I have a desktop (slash) server box that has been running Ubuntu for a couple years now.

The only reason why I havent switched my laptop over is because of the kernel issue with my wireless card and bcm43xx drivers. I finally found a fix for it, til the next kernel upgrade, and my wireless internet is SUPER fast thru my laptop now. I hit 17000+kbps down last night.

Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. 7.10 on my other box and will keep one box on xp pro for all my games and other crap ive got.

But I have loved the switch over to linux. I've tried them all to and Ubuntu is user friendly with gnome. I really dont care for kde or xfce.
Ive spiced it up with beryl and then tweaked it all over the place and Im still tweaking. But thats to fun of linux, you can do whatever!!

#22: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: Ryhxion PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:30 am
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I made the switch on my laptop, a gateway MX7515 AMD 64 4000+ with 1.5GB DDR and ATI x600 graphics card. I tested about 14 distros, and ended up liking Linux Mint the best... its based on Ubuntu/Debian, and so far I friggin love it. I set it up to dual boot with my XP system for now until I ween myself from M$ dependancies. I have to say tho, its VERY refreshing not to have to defrag the HDD and registry every month, and run "optimize" utilities or a bunch of processes (firewall, antivirus, anti-spyware) now I just run a firewall. I still have my other two computers to switch over soon, thinking about PClinuxOS for them.

#23: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: MammloukLocation: Colorado PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:20 am
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I've been running different distros on my Desktop for about 3 years now. SuSE, FC, Gentoo, Ubuntu, Mepis, Lindows/Linspire, etc. Right now I've got Kubuntu running. I just bought a laptop and it's time to decide what to run. I'm thinking of making a jump into the world of BSD with PC-BSD for some testing. For fun here's the lappy specs:

Dell Inspiron 1420
Intel Core2Duo 7500 2.2Ghz
2048 MB DDR2 667Mhz RAM
Nvidia 8200gs with 128MB dedicated RAM
Dell Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n (Probably going to be the biggest problem for drivers)
Builtin Bluetooth (May also cause problems)
And of course all the other standard goodies.

#24: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: wardenLocation: North Carolina PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:11 am
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thinking about PClinuxOS for them

I use it and the 2007 version uses kde. If you prefer Gnome, well, someone has configured a Gnome version, remastered it, and now offers it for download. I just tried it out, and I must say, I like it, so far.

http://www.linuxgator.org/Gnome/gnome_page/gnome.html

I have never really messed with Gnome before, but it does look and "feel" different. I really enjoy the "Live" distributions of Linux... try it before you install it.

#25: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:54 am
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Mammlouk wrote:
I'm thinking of making a jump into the world of BSD with PC-BSD for some testing.

Stay inline and get Dragonfly BSD?
www.dragonflybsd.org/

#26: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: MammloukLocation: Colorado PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:52 am
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DJ Maze wrote:
Mammlouk wrote:
I'm thinking of making a jump into the world of BSD with PC-BSD for some testing.

Stay inline and get Dragonfly BSD?
www.dragonflybsd.org/

I've looked into it, but it's still in very early stages. They're making alot of kernel level changes so it's gonna be awhile before there is a functional system. Sad It's o.k. though, I think PC-BSD or DesktopBSD will do fine for a start!

#27: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: Ryhxion PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:52 pm
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warden wrote:
Quote:
thinking about PClinuxOS for them

I use it and the 2007 version uses kde. If you prefer Gnome, well, someone has configured a Gnome version, remastered it, and now offers it for download. I just tried it out, and I must say, I like it, so far.

http://www.linuxgator.org/Gnome/gnome_page/gnome.html

I have never really messed with Gnome before, but it does look and "feel" different. I really enjoy the "Live" distributions of Linux... try it before you install it.

Thanx warden! I prefer gnome myself, after giving KDE a fair shot.... to me it just seems cleaner and faster. Anyway, thanx for the link!

#28: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:19 pm
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Hmm it seems the latest distro's suck.

A month back i've configured a new PC with a Asus M2N4-SLI mobo but somehow now it gives APIC kernel panis.

Good section for my new bugs-annoy.us server when it comes online Smile

#29: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: Ryhxion PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm
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I'd like to thank warden for the PCLOS gnome link.... I have it running on both my other PC's as dual boots with Xp as well.... t be honest, the only computer that even sees a winXP login these days is my dual boot laptop when I have to run Poser or Bryce 3D, or when I want to use my flashFXP for ftp sessions (I wish they made it for linux)

#30: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:45 pm
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I'm using dualboot Ubuntu-Windows XP now.
It's just that the ATI drivers aren't perfect for Linux and other reasons.

#31: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:06 pm
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I bought myself a new PC (pics here
and tried the latest Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Ribbon.

Install was a PITA because i've configured the DP35DP motherboard to use softwareRAID (fakeRAID) in RAID 0 mode over 3 harddrives.
I had to download the dmraid package and install without grub.
Then go into console mode and install + configure grub myself to get it working,

Finally it booted, installed loads of development stuff and Compiz-fusion in GLX mode.
One day later KDE was all screwed up.

Downloaded Fedora 8, install was flawless, Compiz-fusion in AIGLX mode using the Livna driver (special nvidia driver) and damn it all works in KDE.
The only drawback is that it boots slower Sad

#32: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:37 pm
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Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon is a breeze to install, it use GNOME version... It even resolved most of the video driver problem. And PCI sound card is a lot more easier to configured too.

As for Kubuntu and KDE to me it always screwed up. So I dont even try to use it.

#33: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:53 pm
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Ubuntu failed miserably overhere. The nVidia DRI module wasn't loaded (install fails cos gnome needs mesa) and ccsm (compiz configuration manager) didn't work.
Only the basic wobble and cube option manager worked, no fancy stuff at all.

Sure Ubuntu has a nice fast bootup, where Fedora fails (stupid RedHat NASH) but support for my crazy setup fails everywhere else so Fedora is here (except for MPEG support though)

#34: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:55 pm
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That's why there are so many distros out there.
I like Ubuntu so far, though there could be a bit less hassle, but it has got much better than it was 2 years ago.

#35: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:15 pm
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DJ Maze wrote:
Ubuntu failed miserably overhere. The nVidia DRI module wasn't loaded (install fails cos gnome needs mesa) and ccsm (compiz configuration manager) didn't work.
Only the basic wobble and cube option manager worked, no fancy stuff at all.

Sure Ubuntu has a nice fast bootup, where Fedora fails (stupid RedHat NASH) but support for my crazy setup fails everywhere else so Fedora is here (except for MPEG support though)

I also use nVidia, I had downloaded the linux version of their driver and run the sh command on it. Never had anymore problem since 7.04 Fiesty, been up and runing ever since. Set a side when there is a major update to the core, then I will have to run that file again. So I kept it handy for the next release. (Hardy). Very Happy

#36: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:20 am
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Nice WSG, a shame 7.04 will not run properly with my mobo (way to new ICH9R chipset).

If i were you i definatly would stay with 7.04 (or 6.06 cos of the long time support)!

#37: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:14 pm
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DJ Maze wrote:
Nice WSG, a shame 7.04 will not run properly with my mobo (way to new ICH9R chipset).

Big grin Guess I got lucky with this old dawn 'puter. It is still the old chipset for PIII. Wink

DJ Maze wrote:
If i were you i definatly would stay with 7.04 (or 6.06 cos of the long time support)!

Too late for that now, Rolling Eyes I had alredy upgraded to 7.10 (like a week before it was released) But I will definately stick with this version for a while. Since I am still trying to learn other windows equivalent programs (IE: GIMP) so I can get back at full speed in Theming again. Wink

#38: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:19 pm
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You should install KDE instead of Gnome (or as an additional WM)
Then you have cool tools like KDEWebDev which has XLST debuggers, Quanta+ and much more development tools.

#39: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:00 pm
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What is WM? Sorry I don't know what's that abbriviation mean.

As for installing KDE I am sceptic about that still. When I tried to install KDE Desktop on my it the last time so I can have options for the looks. It scewed my system up bigtime.

I might just drag out my other old computer in the closet and load it up and see. Now where the heck did I put that KVM switch box?..... Very Happy

But I am definately leaving this computer alone this time.

#40: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:05 pm
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WM = Window Manager

KVM = synergy2.sourceforge.net/

#41: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:39 pm
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DJ Maze wrote:
WM = Window Manager

Thanks. Very Happy Big grin

DJ Maze wrote:

LMAOL! Laughing Laughing Laughing Yea! That's what I am looking for. Oh! I remembered where I put it now, in the garage. Very Happy Big grin

#42: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm
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With synergy you don't have to find your hardware, it is software based and already in the Ubuntu distro's Very Happy

#43: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: RayvenhausLocation: Kirkland, WA PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:08 pm
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I've also recently made the plunge at home and dropped Vista. I'd been running XP for the longest time, then upgraded to Vista because of the eye-candy (I know, lousy reason) Big grin

Anyways, I was running into random lockups with Vista and really random reboots, grew way tired of the UAC and overall, even though it looked really kewl, just wasn't thrilled with it.

So, I backed everything up and then downloaded Kubunto 7.10, Debian 4.0RC1 and FreeBSD (I've done Fedora at work and just don't really mesh with it well). Blew away the Drive and fired up the install disks:

System Specs: Abit IP35 Pro motherboard, LGA775 Intel P35 chipset. 2GB Memory and a Maxtor 7H500F0 500GB SATA Drive. Twin PNY VVerto Geforce 6200 PCI video cards.

Both Windows XP and Vista had no problems installing and running on this system. XP was rock solid but I was bored with it. Vista installed and operate fine, just the random unstableness.

Debian 4.0RC1 - No go because the disk deteection failed to detect my 500GB sata drive. The Kernel used by Debian (2.6.18) did not have the needed drivers and I was in no position to make a new kernel myself at this point becuase I didn't have an operating system. I did find a backported Debian etch with the right drivers and I did get Debian to load finally but I dislike the gnome desktop and really wanted the KDE desktop and trying to remove gnome and install KDE blew up on me (Most likely operator error). I finally gave up on it and went to FreeBSD.

FreeBSD - Same error, no detection of the SATA drive.

Kubuntu 7.10 - Fiesty Fawn - Installed like a snap and within 45 minuteas I was up and functional with KDE, WiFi and my Bluetooth keyboard/mouse and one monitor.

Over the past weekend I was able to get everything tweaked the way I wanted it, got dual monitors up and running using Nvidia drivers and a few tweaks and such. Over all, I'm happy (Though the wife isn't) Laughing

Still got a few irritations. Using ndiswrapper to wrap the Netgear WG311V3 XP Drivers works, however it doesn't reload the wrapper on reboot. The Logitech MX5000 and Mx1000 Keyboard/Mouse combo didn't want to repair with the keyboard on reboot, causing an inability to login.

Minor things overall. However, one majot kudo... The system is stable now and doesn't lock up randomly.

#44: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:43 pm
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DJ Maze wrote:
With synergy you don't have to find your hardware, it is software based and already in the Ubuntu distro's Very Happy

Hmmm, must have missed something then. How do I use it then?

#45: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:48 pm
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Rayvenhaus wrote:
I've also recently made the plunge at home and dropped Vista.

WOPPIE! Very Happy Happy to hear. Nice to see you post again. Wink

#46: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: NanoCaiordoLocation: Melbourne, AU PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:34 pm
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By the way Synergy server/clients works in Win/Linux/Apple no matter whic is the client or the server. I'm using it and loving it. Currently my laptop (xp pro) is the server (i love the keyboard of it) and two more boxes as clients: a 4 years old P4 (xp pro) and a CenotOS 5 on my Dual Xeon ML530.

So far nothing really pushed me away from my XP Pro, its stable (very stable) and I'm use to all my software settings.

Also since my time is very limited, using Centos 5 is not helping me at all. It doesn't have a wide choice of rpms yet, LinCVS doesn't build yet as well as many other packages that are not even in repo and not even ready for RH5.

CentOS 5 install was excellent and runs smooth as any other CentOS.

However when I'll decide to switch my P4 I think I'll use K?ubuntu which seems to have all packages that I wanted to use or at least to try. But for now I'm happy with the stability of my XP Pro.

#47: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:28 am
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DJ Maze wrote:
You should install KDE instead of Gnome (or as an additional WM)
Then you have cool tools like KDEWebDev which has XLST debuggers, Quanta+ and much more development tools.
I believe I'm not wrong saying that KDE applications work with Gnome and vice-versa. Though running them in their native platform is better ofcourse.

#48: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:28 am
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Depends if the application is written in X, Qt, GTK, etc. etc.
Because sometimes an application depends on certain features of a Window Manager.

#49: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:04 pm
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I'm using my Windows XP Pro aside using Ubuntu for a week and I must say I'm afraid I'm still going to stick with xp.
Why?
1) It's actually faster with my PC.
2) I feel home.
3) The applications I use are unbeatable, like Winamp and it's media library for example.

#50: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: NanoCaiordoLocation: Melbourne, AU PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:38 pm
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As far i can tell I do like both of them and I'm using them both but for different tasks.
Code:
$mencoder video-color.avi -o video-bw.avi -vf hue=0:0 -oac copy ovc lavc
to do this in windows takes ages and needs heavy GUI (expect virtual dub family).

Linux has too many powerful tools hidden by the use of GUIs.

#51: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:40 pm
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Then there aren't enough GUIs yet Smile

#52: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:26 pm
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Eestlane wrote:
Then there aren't enough GUIs yet Smile
It's getting there... Sooner or later. I am hoping for sooner. But I am starting to like the command line, just like back in the DOS command days for me. Wink

#53: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: JeruvyLocation: Canada PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:54 am
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As much as I like XP, linux is superior in many ways, but really use the OS that gets the job done for you.

I wouldn't validate any of eeastlane's concessions, but if they work for him, then XP is the best OS for him. That's honestly all that really matters...

#54: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:30 pm
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I never did like the Windoze (95,98,me, 2k, xp and now vista) persay, but I got used to them. Since they were dominent in the working world (for some reason). Now I am just getting back to where I should have done a long time ago and start using what I want to use. Very Happy Ofcouse, I will still be using windoze as required for my work, but at home my primary computer is now linux (ubuntu in this case), and my alternate are windoze. Wink

#55: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:31 pm
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Windows servers only exist to satisfy people who only have learned to use the mouse for clicking on:

Start -> Shutdown -> Reboot

For others it has been proven that:
- BSD is the fastest
- Linux free alternative
- UNIX expensive alternative
- Windows? wots that?

So when you have a non-windows server (shame on you if you don't and are a happy RDP user) you must learn to live with a keyboard anyways.

For example try this in windows
Code:
#!/bin/bash
for file in `grep -l HTTP_POST_VARS * -R`
do
   i=0
   while [ -a $file.old.$i ]
   do
      i=$[i+1]
   done
   filenew=$file.old.$i
   cp $file $filenew
   sed -e s/HTTP_POST_VARS/_POST/ $file|cat > $file
done

Now you figure out what it does on a standard GNU/Linux OS Very Happy

#56: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:34 pm
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Backups?

#57: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: WebSiteGuru PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:38 pm
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Rename the old file on the file server and uploading new file to the file server?

#58: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:44 pm
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commands used:
- grep
- cp
- sed
- cat

If you know what these mean you know what they do and what finally happens Razz

#59: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:45 pm
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But I do nooot

#60: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: DJ MazeLocation: http://tinyurl.com/5z8dmv PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:19 pm
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cp_%28Unix%29
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...%28Unix%29

That isn't so hard Eestlane Laughing

#61: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:26 pm
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It adds the name of our copied file to the POST variable?



...so you can copy file via server web interface and you will then see what name it will have Confused


EDIT: Or, no... maybe so:
It make a copy of given file and edits the file so it adds new stuff to the file.

I'm probably still wrong...

#62: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: EestlaneLocation: Estonia PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:32 pm
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I received my Ubuntu cds today and also got some extra stickers (y). Though the ink they used on stickers got a little wet when I tried to clean it a bit with my finger, which was a bit covered with pizza Razz .
But cool. The cd's came straight to my mailbox and I hadn't need to go to the mail office.

#63: Re: The final switch from Windows to Linux Author: layingback PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:14 am
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DJ Maze wrote:
WM = Window Manager

KVM = synergy2.sourceforge.net/

Wow, just (2 yrs later) got around to trying out DJ's recommendation of Synergy2. (Moved house, new desk config, and never liked cabled KVM.) This is amazing. Scroll right (or left, up, down, all configurable), and your mouse - and hence your keyboard - are in the other screen/window. No obvious performance penalty (although I didn't try it over wifi Wink and best of all: copy and paste works between the 2 systems!!! Even when 1 is Ubuntu and the other is W2K! Truly useful, and worth the install alone.

Note Quick Synergy is also available as a separate GUI for Linux.

Thkx DJ!



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