3 digit hex's show up fine as long as they are in a .css file. if you try it in a template file like header.html it will not work. it's for css only. i dont know if it's a dragonfly thing or a css thing. i dont know if it works for ie.css either. just my observations.

3 hexdigits is a CSS thing aka "short notation".
FFFFFF = FFF
999999 = 999
113366 = 136
etc.

This is also known as websafe colors although real websafe colors are even strickter then this.

We don't hate IE nor do we promote firefox by using incompatible themes.
There are 2 default themes 'cpgnuke' (9.1.x renamed to 'default') and 'dragonfly'
The first uses a simple <table> layout and the other relies on CSS 2.

Both themes work in all browsers although the visual view may differ in the 'dragonfly' theme due to FireFox's pre-CSS 3 integration.

The other themes are not updated and are just there cos people wanted more themes on this website.

I prefer to delete them all and force everyone to use the 'dragonfly' theme and delete every forum topic about "Why can't i choose theme" cos it just takes up to much time to update every theme constantly.

So if you all agree i will delete all themes except the defaults.

I would also like to point out that if you find a bug in one of the Dragonfly themes (read: default and/or dragonfly) to report it as a bug. If you know how to fix it, add the fix code to the bug report as that will help expedite correcting the issue.

yes and we could get our website content printed on news paper with little black dots and delivered door to door by letterbox droppers, that would solve all these problems entirely once and for all

while i would be one of the first to choose functionality over form, the internet is primarily a visual medium and i love all the diverse graphics and individual variation you see on it, it lets us all be individuals in a faceless medium. viva la differance!

Memphis i know your point about transparency and light and dark backgrounds, and thank you for adding another two sets of graphics i now need to create to the two i already need to make things look good in most browsers

no way am i making 4 sets of everything to try to suit everyone, and neither should i have to. browser compatibility should not be my concern or issue, but unfortunately it has to be all because some boffins in corporate management wont agree to an indusrty standard for displaying them

simply, if you create images with transparent alpha channels then you will have issues with some current browsers, on light or dark backgrounds, or if you print the images and hold them up in direct sunlight with your tongue hanging out the left side of your mouth on the eve of the full moon second sunday in june every tenth year. this is not my fault, or the image authors fault, its the browsers fault so petition the browser authors to fix their inadequate software

alternately create all your site images on neutral backgrounds in GIMP XCF format and tell the webmasters who install them customise their own, i can offer image background colour mods and sets of jpg's that look good in all browsers at reasonable rates

DJMaze wrote:

I prefer to delete them all and force everyone to use the 'dragonfly' theme and delete every forum topic about "Why can't i choose theme" cos it just takes up to much time to update every theme constantly. So if you all agree i will delete all themes except the defaults.

This is an interesting idea. Some of the modules don't work perfectly & maybe they should be shunted too.

On the other hand, I can easily research solutions or remove modules that don't work perfectly myself because I see the problem when it occurs. I use Opera as my general purpose browser (much better than FF imo) & that means that I won't necessarily see browser related issues in themes unless I specifically test them (beginning to look as if I should do that).

My preference would be to have things available, but to be made aware of the state of play. There could be another logo like the certified secure logo to indicate those modules that are supported by the core team. It would then be clear that the extra themes were not & were community supported. It would be good if developers indicated which browser they were tested on. And maybe we should all contribute more to the review sections.

Interestingly enough, this had been brought up before (by myself) in a staff meeting. I suggested that a Quality Control team be setup for that specific task.

Obviously it didn't go through at the time, otherwise these issues wouldn't be here today. But maybe something is in the works finally?

DJmaze - for what it's worth, and though I don't like NOT seeing alternate themes available for users on this site, I agree with removing them if fixes aren't an option.

pretzy - in keeping with requests from the admins to not discuss compatibility issues here, I've responded to you over here instead of the df forum... new post includes a link to a live page showing examples of what we're discussing. It's a long one, but a necessary one.

the idea of removing old blocks/modules/themes is a good one, but perhaps placing them in a legacy directory for thos using older versions could be considered

then we can start out clean with the latest version when its released and know everything should work out of the box

EDIT: Here's something else that I don't really consider to be a bug, but it's strange to see that the Downloads Links in cpgnuke and default link to _9.x and the the old 8.x respectively.[/EDIT]

Before I submit a bugreport I will try one last time discussing the following in order to narrow down the issue:

Does anybody else experience the browsertitlebar (FF) showing blocks instead of arrows in all three available themes on this site? Is this just me or could this be an issue with the themes or perhaps the whole system?

Could it be a font-issue just like the one kuragari discovered in the topic on wrong display of the forums topictitle.

I don't consider this a matter of life and death, but I feel the underlying issue might still be of interest.

I'm running XP Pro English with the Dutch language installed. My Firefox installation is English, too.

i personally have never had any odd symbols in place of text on this or any site with stock themes, or with any themes i have tried on my own sites

perhaps it is a font issue