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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:34 pm
Post subject: Chinese Language Pack

I would like to suggest not to use CHARSET=UTF-8i in Chinese language pack. Instead, it should be CHARSET=BIG5. Accordingly, all the chinese-php files encodings should be changed as well.

The reason is, the same Chinese character is represented by different values in localized codepage (i.e. big5) and unicode. When charset=utf-8 is specified in html header, browse converts any input in Chinese into unicode codepage instead of keepin its original big5 code. Since most Chinese web pages are coded as big5, converting to utf-8 can only prevent the page to be searched natually.

Please consider my request. I am doing the change on my site anyway. I can help to convert the language.php files if needed.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:51 am
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I am a translator for CPGNuke , and gald to meet you here.
I am not php programmer, and consider your project will be good to most users who would like to build their web in Chinese(Traditional) with big5 charset.

在此給你加油加油.

feel free to download Chinese Traditional package in utf-8 encoding as the followin' URL

pc-studio.myweb.hinet.net/CPG-Nuke/


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:29 pm
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Hi Wi777,

Thanks for your response. I might need your help to translate more files. Not all terms in english file are currently translated to Chinese yet.

However, I do need some official responses from cpgnuke develpment team to get the consensus of producing page in big5 codepage instead of unicode. The reason is that phpnuke is all non-unicode. There must be a reason for cpgnuke team to change everything to unicode. I can (and will) create my own set of big5 language for my own use. But I will not contribute it back to cpgnke unless I am sure it is in line with the direction the site is going.

Can someone in development team give some response here?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Chinese Language Pack

Did you read this?
cpgnuke.com/Forums/vie...t=619.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:27 am
Post subject: Re: Chinese Language Pack

CPGNuke uses UTF-8 so that chinese characters can also be displayed on other languages pages.

For example if I go to a chinese CPGNuke website and the block name or header text is in utf-8 Chinese i can still see the characters when english or any other language is chosen as my default in CPGNuke, not so fo BIG-5.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:38 am
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see my poll here cpgnuke.com/Forums/vie...=2352.html
and can you guys get together with chinabrit to take parts, to complete the utf-8 translation?

For using RSS from BIG-5 encoded sites there is probably an algorhythm we can use to translate the input so it is properly diplayed.

You might be able to paste big5 chars into the news input and have it displayed correctly... let me know if that also works...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:12 am
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Hi Wi777 and dukeyork!

Greetings from a Brit in China.

dukeyork:
As akamu has explained, utf-8 allows multiple languages to be displayed on a page - unlike BIG5 - that is why it was chosen. For people like me, whose site is mostly English with a little Chinese, that works very well. I guess if you need to convert existing data it becomes a hassle. I'm only a relative newbie at PHP but I see there is a function, iconv(), that can convert between character sets so maybe it would be possible to write a routine that would convert between Big5 and UTF-8?

Wi777:
I tried to download your language pack but can't get to that URL - or to the site on your profile. I wonder if this is because the sites are in Taiwan and I'm in mainland China??? Say no more... Wink

I am English, living in China at the moment, and would like to help akamu get the Chinese language packs sorted. Is there any way I can get hold of your language pack?

akamu:
From what has been said in this thread, the existing language pack appears to be Traditional Chinese. I'd like to help you get a Simplified Chinese language pack together. The bad news: my Chinese is very poor so I will have to try and get someone to translate it for me. The good news: if we already have the Traditional Chinese language files in UTF-8 format, I have some software that will convert it to Simplified Chinese. Can you let me have the Chinese language files - assuming I can't get them from Wi777?

Am I right to say that the English version on the 8.3 CVS is, more or less, complete and that any new packs should be based on that?

Ian.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:25 am
Post subject: Re: Chinese Language Pack

The latest language pack is here:
cpgnuke.com/cvs/langua...implified/

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Chinese Language Pack

I downloaded a couple of the lang files to check them out. Actually, they appear to be Traditional Chinese, not Simplified... From what I saw, there is still a proportion of the defines which have not been translated.

If we have most of the language files in Traditional Chinese I think I can convert them to Simplified - two for the price of one???

I downloaded Tortoise CVS to try to download the complete 8.3 CVS but had problems - that's why I only checked out a couple of the files. If I can't get it to work later I'll be asking for help. Wink

Incidentally, it is possible to copy from a Big5 page and paste into CPG Nuke as you suggested...


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:23 am
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wi777 i tried to find the language pack but all i found was a full version of cpgnuke...8.2a

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:08 am
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akamu wrote:
wi777 i tried to find the language pack but all i found was a full version of cpgnuke...8.2a

yes, just rename directory and filename from English to Chinese.
If turn it to Chinese directory and filename then many info will be displayed in English. so I directly translate it in Eng.

another issue is css file , I change they to 12px (min), and some mb_convert_encoding for account mail and displayed timezone while some web server in windows.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:38 pm
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Hi wi777,

I have managed to get to your site using a proxy (so I guess it must be blocked from mainland China...). Sad However, like akamu, I couldn't find the language pack.
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just rename directory and filename from English to Chinese.
I'm not clear what you mean. Do I have to download the whole cpgnuke zip and extract it? And before going to more trouble, is your version more up to date than the one in the language packs on this site? (In downloads and 8.3 CVS)

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:30 pm
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Hi wi777,

I have managed to get to your site using a proxy (so I guess it must be blocked from mainland China...). Sad

You shouldn't of tried to hack him. Razz Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:53 pm
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ChinaBrit wrote:
Hi wi777,

is your version more up to date than the one in the language packs on this site? (In downloads and 8.3 CVS)

Thanks.

I recognize the download file provided by me is up to date following bug fixes reported on forum of cpgnuke.com and some module following cvs.

I must ensure people consider cpgnuke is great and keep bug fixes for it

that's the reason I stamp file-date on my webpage for annoucement of file-update.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:06 am
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Hi wi777,

I have managed to get to your site using a proxy (so I guess it must be blocked from mainland China...). Sad

You shouldn't of tried to hack him. Razz Razz

yes, I have already noticed the situation you get into , isp or proxy server on China Mainland will block my webpage because of China government official information surveillance policy.

If you tell me the yim or msn instant messager account, I will transfer file to you on it.

the following files are translated in Chinese (not in language)
admin/modules/smilies.php backup.php newsletter.php groups.php authors.php users_cfg.php modules.php forums.php
ShoutBlock.php settings.php coppermine.php stories.php

and there are 4 files fixed for translation in directory admin/links/

and many many more ...

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