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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:15 am
Post subject: wish list or request 4 coppermine - kevingpo series

Where are the requests/wish-list for coppermine?

Anywayz, here's what I like to see:

1) upload .tar.gz .zip files.
2) MSN-like Photo Upload browser plugin. It's a popup window with a thumbnail-windows-explorer-like interface. Multiple photos upload possible, with auto-conversion from non-web-standard-formats (eg. TIFF, etc.).

3) able to rotate images already in coppermine (90 degrees left or right).

4) able to multiple delete images
5) move images between albums.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:51 am
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all very good requests, I especially like the idea of #3/5

I like #1, but I don't think it'll work with apache due to the default upload size of 2MB

Also, I think you can already do #4


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:13 pm
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I actually don't really see the point of .gz or .zip uploads unless you don't have FTP access (i.e. you're on the road and working from internet cafes, which often don't allow FTP) and you want to upload many files in an archive. Since most image formats don't compress very well, the compression advantage is minimal.

If you want to use the "Batch Add", you just FTP the files to the relevant spot and then browse there with the Batch Add function.

If you need to rotate images, it will typically be way faster on your local machine (again assuming you're on your own machine) I highly recommend a free little app called Rota. It gives you thumbnails of every file in a directory and does lossless jpeg rotation with a right-click or left click. Then you select "apply" and it batch rotates with no loss of image quality (as there is with the native rotation on Windows XP for example) and no loss of EXIF information. JPEGs and Windows only AFAIK so that may not help you.

Also, for batch image conversions where I don't want to tweak all the jpeg settings and so forth, I think IrfanView is great and ImageMagick can be used for this too from the shell.

This may or may not help, but I prefer a set of small, lightweight apps that do their jobs really well to a Swiss Army approach that does everything I could conceivably want and just bogs down my server. But that's just me.


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I can undertsand the .gz or .zip uploads... here's an everyday scenario for my site:

We have albums that our members upload to. Currently, they have to upload 1 picture at a time when they might have 75 to upload. So, they have to take FOREVER to upload their pics. I, as an administrator, can do batch uploading, but users can't and I'm not going to give them FTP access to do so. If they were able to upload multiple pictures or a file like a .zip that contains multiple pictures, my users would be 10x happier. Many of them still aren't hot on the idea of using coppermine in CPGNuke because of this and still continue to use imagestation and other on-line photo albums because they can do this sort of "batch" uploading. Meanwhile, I'd really rather they upload them to our site (and they would too if it didn't take so much time to do so).


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I am the only IT guy for the website. However the rest are non-IT guys are never used FTP in their lifes! So FTPing is not an option. Nor are they willing to listen to my boredorm lectures.

I know CPGNuke or Coppermine wasn't made to be user-friendly, but tasks which do not involve FTP would be good. Besides the initial stage of uploading the website files, AND besides FTP uploading during updates/upgrades.. I like everything else done via the website.

For rotation. A lot of people upload and the pictures are in the wrong orientation. I don't have time going through all the photos and having to download them and sort them out. We have albums storing over 100s of photos each, etc.

I will not be maintainer of our website for long and am afraid the future of it. Basically my users are non-computer literate. They can visit the website, and navigate alright. Uploading a picture is enough for them... learning SSH, FTP and all that is not what they want.

So it would be nice to be able to upload multiple files at a time (possibly in a archive, or have ActiveX/Java plugin similar to MSN PhotoUpload for their MSN Groups and MSN Spaces). Yes, user friendly and very easy.

Another thing is that there are many users with lots of photos (let say 20, 30, 40). However I can't give out passwords to my FTP site. Plus it's very hard to get hold of photos from my users. So I let them upload in their own time. However they tell me about the "only one upload at a time". And I can't give them the password. And it would be more efficient for them to upload directly than all going through me.

But since CPGNuke/Coppermine is Open-source I might try to delve in and think/design/implement this batch upload. Maybe also solve this move photos between albums. Gonna be tough and hard!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:33 pm
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What I like to See is Batch Upload from your local Machine to Server Mr. Green Very happy


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:52 pm
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I am the only IT guy for the website. However the rest are non-IT guys are never used FTP in their lifes! So FTPing is not an option. Nor are they willing to listen to my boredorm lectures.

I know CPGNuke or Coppermine wasn't made to be user-friendly, but tasks which do not involve FTP would be good. Besides the initial stage of uploading the website files, AND besides FTP uploading during updates/upgrades.. I like everything else done via the website.

For rotation. A lot of people upload and the pictures are in the wrong orientation. I don't have time going through all the photos and having to download them and sort them out. We have albums storing over 100s of photos each, etc.

I will not be maintainer of our website for long and am afraid the future of it. Basically my users are non-computer literate. They can visit the website, and navigate alright. Uploading a picture is enough for them... learning SSH, FTP and all that is not what they want.

So it would be nice to be able to upload multiple files at a time (possibly in a archive, or have ActiveX/Java plugin similar to MSN PhotoUpload for their MSN Groups and MSN Spaces). Yes, user friendly and very easy.

Another thing is that there are many users with lots of photos (let say 20, 30, 40). However I can't give out passwords to my FTP site. Plus it's very hard to get hold of photos from my users. So I let them upload in their own time. However they tell me about the "only one upload at a time". And I can't give them the password. And it would be more efficient for them to upload directly than all going through me.

But since CPGNuke/Coppermine is Open-source I might try to delve in and think/design/implement this batch upload. Maybe also solve this move photos between albums. Gonna be tough and hard!

Sounds like you are reciting my exact situation to the letter! Shocked Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:27 pm
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insaner wrote:
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Sounds like you are reciting my exact situation to the letter! Shocked Very Happy

Sorry. Heh. At first I actually overlooked your reply thinking it was something along the lines:

"I can't undertsand the .gz or .zip uploads..."

and thought it was another rick_deckard's posting. So I typed up my thoughts and experience in reply to rick_deckard's posting. It wasn't until after I posted that I properly read your reply Wink Thanks for the support dude.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:00 pm
Post subject: Re: wish list or request 4 coppermine - kevingpo series

Akamu said long time ago that batch add for everyone was something he planned on adding when time allowed. Of course only those who search before starting the same topic over again would know that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:08 am
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NEMINI wrote:
Akamu said long time ago that batch add for everyone was something he planned on adding when time allowed. Of course only those who search before starting the same topic over again would know that.
you crack me up NEMINI! oh, and I like the avatar too Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:48 am
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I've added a archive decompressor class ages ago to the CVS and Dragonfly releases but we actualy never used it as of yet.

dragonflycms.com/cvs/h...ract.inc?v

PHP:
$archive = new extract_file();
$archive->extractfile($filename);
print_r($archive->filelist);

But it isn't finished yet and very buggy.
However you do see we are working on it, but also notice we only release when it works and is integrated.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:11 am
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Sounds good DJMaze... Will this still be restricted to the php environment variable upload_max_filesize? I believe it's default value is 2MB. So if someone has 70 Pics and the Zip is 45MB, we'd still be stuck correct?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:08 am
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Yep 2M max unless you edit php.ini


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Couldn't there be a "new" technique where you write a plugin so that it scans a folder you request to upload. Then it auto resizes everything:

1. create thumb_image0000.jpg
2. create normal_image0000.jpg

and upload those two images up, without uploading the massive 2MB full size image file. This would help a lot on the uploading phase as the average thumb file is only 5k and normal image is like 15k.

95% of the time my users don't require the full 2MB full size image file. It's only a rare occurrance they like 1 or 2 to be full size. If that's the case they can request it from the author/uploader.

This "preprocessing state" could be a special option?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:48 pm
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I can remember in past discussions on other web software forums that the 2MB is a total upload... so, lets say you have 200 20KB files. If you intitiated an upload to say "upload these 200 files" it would act like a counter and wouldn't upload more than the first 100...

... at least I think that's how I remember it. Can anyone verify? Also, I believe there is a timeout as well.

Either way, uploading via php can be restrictive especially if you aren't the server admin who can change the php.ini settings.


One workaround would possibly be to have an application on the client like mentioned from MSN and a few other's like gallery (Gallery Remote). This could possibly intitiate a session for each picture it uploads. I'm not sure about the technical feasibility of this or not or if the developers would want to invest the time.


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