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Having lived in a Tepee for the last twenty years,I am very new to the web. About three weeks ago I wrote a series of static pages and installed my first website on a friends server.

Wanting to develop, I installed Apache/Mysql/PHP on my laptop, then went for PHPBB. As to be expected, I had lots of problems with the entire last sentence but managed to struggle through.

Yesterday, I came across Dragonfly. So I installed this on my laptop.Effectively I now have one public site and two private development sites.

Now that we have all the crap out of the road:Leaving all appropriate credits intact, I modified the Header code to put my site logo inside the blue box.

I have other problems customizing Dragonfly to my needs/wants and when I finally got around to pushing the help button, I was informed that I was banned for having spam urls in the referal header.

I do not even know what this means and would like an explantation

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
CentOS Apache_2.0 Mysql_5.0 PHP_5.2 Dragonfly_9.1


I don' think I have done anything wrong and am certainly not spamming. In case it helps here is a copy of the output header :-

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>
<base href="http://localhost/dragonfly/" />
<meta name="description" content="Forums The speed and security that we need" />
<meta name="keywords" content="Forums, forums, bulletin, board, boards, phpbb, community" />
<meta name="resource-type" content="document" />
<meta name="distribution" content="global" />
<meta name="author" content="irvinescotland.co.uk" />
<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright (c) 2007 by irvinescotland.co.uk" />
<meta name="robots" content="index, follow" />
<meta name="rating" content="general" />
<meta name="generator" content="CPG Dragonfly CMS: Copyright (c) 2003-2007 by CPG-Nuke Development Team, dragonflycms.org" />
<meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="true" />
<title>irvinescotland.co.uk &rsaquo; Irvine's Scotland Forum &rsaquo; This board has no forums</title><link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
<script type="text/javascript">if (self != top) top.location.replace(self.location)</script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="includes/javascript/infobox.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="includes/javascript/blockscript.js"></script>

<link rel="copyright" href="index.php?name=credits" title="Copyrights" />
<link rel="author" href="index.php?name=Members_List" title="Members List" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="rss/news2.php" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="themes/default/style/style.css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="themes/default/style/cpgmm.css" />
</head>
<body>
<table class="headtable">
<tr><td>
<table class="head">

<tbody>
<tr>
<td align="left" width="212"><a href="index.php"><img
src="images/logo.gif" alt="irvinescotland.co.uk" title="irvinescotland.co.uk"
border="0"></a></td>
<td align="center" width="100%"><big><big><big><big><big><big><font size="+3"><big><big><big><big><big><big><span
style="font-family: Algerian;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span
style="font-style: italic;">Irvine's&nbsp;&nbsp; Scotland</span></span></span></font><br>
</td>
<td width="33"><a href=""><img
src="images/logo.gif" alt="irvinescotland.co.uk" title="irvinescotland.co.uk"
border="0"></a> <br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>

Like adventure, visit www.irvinescotland.co.uk

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
CentOS Apache_2.0 Mysql_5.0 PHP_5.2 Dragonfly_9.1


the referal header is in reference to your browser header (the metadata your browser is sending to the site), not your website header.

What is referral Spam?

Referral Spam is sending multiple requests to a website spoofing the header to make it look like you are sending real traffic to another site. This way, when someone checks their log, they will see 100 or 5,000 or however-many “referrals” from another site that actually sent them no real traffic. Often, you don’t even have a link to the target site from on page of the sending URL you are referral spamming from. By refferral spamming, you will get the clicks from the curious refferral log browsers as well as traffic from the toplists you dominate.


So that said, where are you referring from? Are you clicking a dragonflycms.org link from your site or just typing in the URL? Maybe it's just a matter of the link being on "localhost" and not having a real "trackback"

All that said, I don't think you're doing anything "wrong", so:
Welcome to the wonderful world of Dragonfly, how may we help you? Smile

Admin - Great Lakes Web Designs
Theme Designer - WebSite Guru Designs
Site Admin - Families with Food Allergies

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Linux 2.6.27-grsec/Apache 2.2.11/MySQL 5.0.67-community-log/PHP 5.2.8/DF 9.2.1


So that said, where are you referring from?


My real world website is not yet running Dragonfly, On my localhost development website, I am pushing the Help button on the admin main menu.

I am also thinking that it might be something to do with localhost, another possibility is that when I installed dragonfly, I think that I gave my real world site address?

That might set up some kind of conflict, but I can't see any reference in the output HTML.

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
CentOS Apache_2.0 Mysql_5.0 PHP_5.2 Dragonfly_9.1


It is possible you are on a PC that has a domain that has been identified as a source of referral spam.

edit: upon rereading it is possible your domain may be passing 'localhost' to this site, hence the problem. Perhaps someone can confirm or deny this...

J.
j e r u v y a t y a h o o d o t c o m

Need help? Look here: www.dragonflycms.org/W...d=112.html
Need to chat? Look for me on irc.freenode.net

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Ubuntu7.10/Debian3.1 - 2.2.3/1.3.37 - 5.0.38/4.0.27 - 5.2.1/4.4.7 - CVS/9.1.2}

Last edited by Jeruvy on Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:54 pm; edited 1 time in total


OK so I tried it out of curiosity and it took me to the DF Wiki. So no issues with me!

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Linux/2.0.54 (Unix)/5.0.51/5.2.6/DragonflyCMS 9.2.1


It is possible you are on a PC that has a domain that has been identified as a source of referral spam.


If I use the same PC to log on directly to this dragonfly site I don't have any problems. The problem only manifests, when I push the panic button on my virtual site.

I just checked the main admin/web site configuration and;

site name = irvinescotland.co.uk
site domain = localhost
site path = /dragonfly/

The quality of my connection may be relevant:

A local business man is hosting my site for free and has connected my winter squat to his internal telephone network. So my connection is through a modem to an internal telephone network onto his business computer network and out to the real world.

Also, I am using a domain registration company to redirect irvinescotland.co.uk to the host server.

Generally the upgrade is progressing well and I am hoping to have all the content etc loaded onto the virtual site this week, aiming to upload the new site onto the server next weekend.

If we have not found the problem by then, I will be able to try pushing the panic button from the real world site. Although, I would like to know what is causing this problem.

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
CentOS Apache_2.0 Mysql_5.0 PHP_5.2 Dragonfly_9.1


CONFIRMED. You cannot hit the Help link from admin while accessing your site from localhost

fyi - My "site domain" is not set for localhost - I have a DNS redirect to it's real domain name normally, but accessing the site from the server via localhost and attempting to access dragonflycms.org activates this security feature.

Admin - Great Lakes Web Designs
Theme Designer - WebSite Guru Designs
Site Admin - Families with Food Allergies

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Linux 2.6.27-grsec/Apache 2.2.11/MySQL 5.0.67-community-log/PHP 5.2.8/DF 9.2.1


rlgura wrote
CONFIRMED. You cannot hit the Help link from admin while accessing your site from localhost


Well that is good to have confirmed, by the weekend the whole question will be academic, (for me at least.) But I can now sleep easily knowing I am not a Spammer Embarassed

Many thanks for your time and patience.

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
CentOS Apache_2.0 Mysql_5.0 PHP_5.2 Dragonfly_9.1


Yes this would be a case where your HOSTNAME (sitedomain) does not match your DOMAIN name.

Glad that's sorted.

J.
j e r u v y a t y a h o o d o t c o m

Need help? Look here: www.dragonflycms.org/W...d=112.html
Need to chat? Look for me on irc.freenode.net

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Ubuntu7.10/Debian3.1 - 2.2.3/1.3.37 - 5.0.38/4.0.27 - 5.2.1/4.4.7 - CVS/9.1.2}

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