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Hi all,

it came to my attention that Microsoft is programming his Office suite for GNU/Linux.
This is a good decision as governments and companies are switching to GNU/Linux fast.
Mostly also because Windows XP will be dead in 2014 and companies must switch to either Windows 7, OSX or GNU/Linux, and based on all security leaks of last year they will make a better choice.

As an IT Architect i've already abandoned Windows OS for almost 8 years as main OS (only used in VM for testing IE>7 and such).
And somehow my productivity seems much higher then before.

Looking at colleagues who still use Windows 7 & 8 it seems they are less productive or modified their system with (expensive) hack applications to get more productive.

I've converted my old dad to use certain GNU/Linux distributions as well, after he had ransomware and malware on his computers and somehow he does manage to use the computer (although he can't find the blue E).

We've put my mother on Apple and she loves it as she is mainly using it for photography.

So, why are you still using Windows OS or why not?

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Been Linux for 8+ years full time, more than that part time.

2 reasons:

Time - I'm not wasting hours and hours each week housekeeping (updating separate apps, virus scans, firewalls) - 0, nada, none!

Speed - Not only does everything run faster without need for those (bloated) firewalls, scanners, download checkers, but Linux will run faster on 5 year old systems than Windows will on the current huge systems. And memory management is simply in a different league. My desktop Ubuntu machine runs exactly as fast today as it did when installed in 2008 - and EVERY day in between.

And free (as in beer) doesn't hurt! Wink But free (as in non-proprietary) is absolutely wonderful!

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Windows 7 with automated house keeping Wink Mainly it takes me longer then the average person to learn a new OS or anything for that matter, and also I am a gamer and the games I play do not support and/or are not supported by other OS.

and windows is still free Wink

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I manage round about 150 PC in 6 networks. servers and workstation are all Windows so i'll have to stay up to date on Windows and i regret to not have enough time to learn GNU/Linux systems. Also i'm not very motivated but always get frustrated when hitting a wall while working on webspaces.

But could you please explain more what you understand by saying "productivity gain"

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GNU/Linux systems OR Windows BOTH

Was lucky my son in-law was a Navy trained specialist on Linux systems
Seems they also use Both. He showed me a lot.
So spent 2 years on Linux exclusively. But am back on Windows as of now.

Linux has many features that once you learn "HOW" are far better than windows. Your just one sudo command away. LOL

However Windows runs many programs that Linux cannot. It's still used by most of the public.

As far as the productivity gain on Linux vrs Windows.
It takes a new user a good deal of time to learn any "new" system OR "Product".
And until they do they will use the one their familiar with.
Because they get things done. Faster with less "Learning" and more "Doing".

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So, why are you still using Windows OS or why not?


I am not using windows on a daily basis. I keep a spare partition of XP and Win7 functional and updated solely for the purpose of updating and rooting my smartphone, updating my gps unit, and other assorted devices. I very, very rarely boot into windows. I use XP in a virtual machine to use those programs that will not work with linux or wine, like tax programs. My employer even gave me a laptop with XP on it and I installed linux in a dual boot so I can use linux when nobody is around.

Linux is my daily OS that I have come to respect, enjoy, and learn. I am far more productive with it. I love not needing an antivirus program, which automatically makes a computer run faster and smoother. Learning to use linux was beneficial to me.

This is not to bash or flame anyone or anything, but for what it is worth... I got started with linux with PCLinuxOS, and I am currently using SolusOS as I wanted to move to debian with gnome2. So far, so good.

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movix wrote
But could you please explain more what you understand by saying "productivity gain"


As a developer i need a good directory explorer.
Windows OS Explorer only supports one directory and browsing is a PITA.
On GNU/Linux i can use tabs and split a window horizontal and vertical to copy/move files without having to open multiple windows (see it as your FTP program).
Also i can expand/collapse directories on the right panel instead of only the directory browser on the left which allows me to show files in many directories at once.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO3fIAPPZGs

Also my PC speed stays good without virus-scanner and all other required software on Windows.
And another issue on Windows is that it always asks to open zip files and other stuff as it might contain a virus (especially over the network).
So the security measures required to run and maintain a Windows OS is just crazy.

Another thing which is very important to me is the filename case-sensitivity.
Our servers run on BSD, GNU/Linux, etc. which are also case-sensitive AND use SSH and etc.
When using Windows OS there are always line-ending and filename issues, not to mention what i have to do to get a descent SSH connection.

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And meld.

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layingback wrote
And meld.

I use kdiff3 instead Wink

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If nobody uses Windows how do we properly test DragonflyCMS on IIS or IE Wink

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Windows 8 at home, mainly for gaming, manage Windows PCs and servers at work, and have a CentOS Linux box for web hosting, but my daily work machine is an iMac.

I don't think I could or would switch to Linux for desktop apps, the iMac is the best thing I've ever used, I have a magic mouse and trackpad and operating a desktop with gestures blows everything else out of the water IMO, but hardly anything is free in the Mac world and there's less choice when it comes to the desktop. For example I'm using Office for Mac as my main productivity suite, which seems a bit silly when you think about it.

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I've been using Ubuntu since 8.04 or so. All the machines so far have been dual-boot machines with whatever Windows is newest at the given time.

I hate the fact that my ATI radeon open-source drivers suck on Linux, but they are finally getting better. Steam coming on Linux really helps - my 5 year old laptop can nicely play original Half-Life and Counter-Strike 1.6 for Linux. Not that I actually play them, but bought them just to show my support.

Ubuntu is a great tool for a software developer, starting with the "built-in" tools like terminal and bash. I use Ubuntu because of the packages it has available, it's a complete package.

I'm lucky that I can use Ubuntu at my work as well.

I really doubt that MS Office is coming to Linux, it's just a rumor. What they could've meant, might be the web-version of office, as IE10 is standards-compliant, so it could work in Firefox as well.

I do think that the latest Windows and OS X are fine operation systems as well. Though the metro interface on Windows 8 is kind of counter-productive (pretty much like the Gnome 3 default interface), but maybe the problem is getting rid of the habits.

If I'd have too much money in my hands, I'll definitely check out OS X on some nice retina display hardware, though I've heard it's not necessarily better than Ubuntu functionality-wise.

Have a nice day,
Madis

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My 2 personal laptops, both stolen on 2 seperate breakins, had Ubuntu on them. My boys pc's are XP and 7. That's what they came with and they are turning into gamers, and not all games are linux friendly. Have to use 7 at work because of ArtiosCAD and Solidworks only works on an WinOS.
I would love to own an apple machine. My iPad1, iPhone5, and iPod2 don't count. I can't afford a macbook or imac.
BUT, I am in the process of building a home box that will run some linux OS. Haven't decided yet. Since my days, that have long gone by, of web hosting and helping on here, there have been a ton of mew OS's released. I don't want the pretty Mint or other's like that. I can still get around a linux box via command line, so a pretty gui isn't needed.
I love linux systems. I got our IT guy crazy about it. And would be great if everyone else could see how big it could be. It's gotten huge just in the past 8-10 years. Wish it would get bigger.
Thanks!!

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bigern75 wrote
My 2 personal laptops, both stolen on 2 seperate breakins, had Ubuntu on them.

That's a great way to spread Linux ! Dancing

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Eestlane wrote
bigern75 wrote
My 2 personal laptops, both stolen on 2 seperate breakins, had Ubuntu on them.

That's a great way to spread Linux ! Dancing


LOL Eestlane!

Being an IT guy, I run whatever OS is needed to comply with the software required to do the job. That being said, on my personal machines, I run Linux Mint/Windows 7 in dual boot configs. However, I stay in Linux much if not most of the time. Wink

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