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Will The DF Community ever see Major Activity Again?

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

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PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


yeah, it could

.:: I met php the 03 December 2003 :: Unforgettable day! ::.

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CloudLinux / Apache 2.4 LSAPI / MySQLi 5.6 / PHP 5.6 / DCVS


I don't believe it is headed in that direction.

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


Internet has changed, and so does Dragonfly v10.
Problem is: who has time to finish/write code?

I have my own company and a girl friend and that makes free time almost unavailable.

Aside from that, the direction v10 goes is very powerfull and i wrote another CMS that uses the same code.
I can now convert Joomla! and WordPress websites in 2 hours and still let the owners login using their passwords thanks to the power of the new authentication/identity systems.

The new package manager using Phar and Private/Public keys also solves update/install security problems that others like Joomla/WordPress/Drupal/etc. still have troubles with.
Their package managers are probably easier in use and more equiped, but we have to start somewhere and ours is always: security first!
Sadly that does take a lot of time.

Or should we just release the current v10 and use rolling releases?

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Fedora 25 / Apache 2.4.27 / MariaDB 10.1.26 / PHP 7.1.10 / Mercurial


DJ Maze wrote
Internet has changed, and so does Dragonfly v10.

Cars are changing every year too. But i don't need trade in my car each Year.

DJ Maze wrote

Problem is: who has time to finish/write code?

That's so true.
DF10 New Core code breaks customized Themes and Modules......

Having to update all of my custom modules & Themes to work with
DF10 New DB Layer. Is a deal breaker. I have more than 19 Different Modules on just one site alone.

DJ Maze wrote

Or should we just release the current v10 and use rolling releases?

Releasing it now would be good. However if v10's release is to replace 9.4
Then perhaps 9.4 should be forked.

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


bulldog500 wrote
DF10 New Core code breaks customized Themes and Modules......

I like to know where it breaks. As it shouldn't because i tried to keep the old things working.

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Fedora 25 / Apache 2.4.27 / MariaDB 10.1.26 / PHP 7.1.10 / Mercurial


I was just injured in a serious accident. After the swelling goes back down, I will document for you.
Get back to you in a week or so...

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


I tried upgrading to DF10 but just got a blank screen. reDesign3 theme didn't work. Pro News didn't work so that's pretty much my whole site. Restarted with 9 and all is fine...

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rosbif wrote
I tried upgrading to DF10 but just got a blank screen. reDesign3 theme didn't work. Pro News didn't work so that's pretty much my whole site. Restarted with 9 and all is fine...

Upgrading to v10 Fails to offer anything of real importance. v9 is so much more simple and easier.. The v10 new DB layer and extensive use of CLASSES and Sub Classes, and totaly re-worked Module Installer... Might be a great Portfolio Demo of a programmers skills. But it offers nothing but Bloat when trying to accommodate v9 user and their existing sites. Why would anyone spend the large amount of time needed to "Learn" the PHP and the "Flow" of v10, when v10 has little or No Support by Developers. No themes, Modules developed yet for it. An equal amount of time learning v10 could be used to "Learn" Wordpress, Joomla Cms's that offer thousands of pre-developed Add-Ons (Modules etc) ready to go right NOW.
v9 Brought a lot of PHP developers from the Nuke world. v10 has no such following and too many Developer headaches......

Stay with v9

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


rosbif wrote
Pro News didn't work so that's pretty much my whole site.

WARNING! Pro News module will not work on PHP 7
Call to undefined function ereg() Call to undefined function mysql_insert_id()

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Fedora 25 / Apache 2.4.27 / MariaDB 10.1.26 / PHP 7.1.10 / Mercurial

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DJ Maze wrote
rosbif wrote
Pro News didn't work so that's pretty much my whole site.

WARNING! Pro News module will not work on PHP 7
Call to undefined function ereg() Call to undefined function mysql_insert_id()


So what would you like us to do?

That's a genuine question, not a sarcastic comment. I have several sites, as do friends, colleagues and clients. All of which will eventually hit PHP 7. But none of them want ANY CHANGES to their sites. Meaning even if I do it for free for them (unlikely), unless I can EXACTLY match theme, modules, etc., they will see it, and reject it, as a retrograde step.

Plus - a version "about ready to release" isn't going to be usable as a production release for quite a while - not a criticism, it's just the nature of things. Meaning even without the theme/module upgrade issues we're going to need DF 9.x for PHP 7 I suspect ... Even the slowest-to-upgrade hosts are going 5.6 now, so it won't be too long I fear.

Pro_News CM™ - Content Management for Dragonfly CMS™

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Linux / 1.3.39 - 2.4.9 / 5.5.42 - 5.6.16 / 5.4.37 - 5.5.11 / 9.4


[quote="layingback"]
DJ Maze wrote
rosbif wrote
Pro News didn't work so that's pretty much my whole site.

WARNING! Pro News module will not work on PHP 7
[code] we're going to need DF 9.x for PHP 7 I suspect ... Even the slowest-to-upgrade hosts are going 5.6 now, so it won't be too long I fear.


If you need files for 9.x to work on PHP 7 - I have them available. Been using them for over a Year now. No Problems...

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


@bulldog500,

I would very much like to get hold of those DF 9.4 changes for PHP7 if possible please!

Just the DF specific ones that is, as I'll be staying with MySQL.

Please let me know what form you'd prefer to make the changes available. THANKS!!!

Don't have an urgent need right now, but I fear I'll only get a couple of weeks warning when/if my ISP's do change Rolling Eyes so much easier if I can get them now when I do not need to rush you. TIA!

Pro_News CM™ - Content Management for Dragonfly CMS™

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
Linux / 1.3.39 - 2.4.9 / 5.5.42 - 5.6.16 / 5.4.37 - 5.5.11 / 9.4


OK I will PM you in a few days with files.. Still recovering from the
accident.

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified


@layingback

I sent you (PM) a Link to get changes.

Only takes a minute or so to Install update to a DF 9.4 site to update it to run on PHP 7.x

You can also copy the files to a New 9.4 package and Freshly (new) Install it on PHP 7.x

These files Install by using the DF installer
Just copy files to site and goto......

Link to install (Upgrade)
http://YourSite/install.php




Read the enclosed readme.txt file

Dragonfly 9.4 Running on PHP 7.x + MariaDB

Server specs (Server OS / Apache / MySQL / PHP / DragonflyCMS):
PHP Version 7.0.6 + MariaDB + Dragonfly 9.4 Modified

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